[Posted
February 4, 2008]
Huffington Post Feb 3, 2008
- BRIAN KNOWLTON, New York Times
PRABHUPADA: Yes. That is my point. You have to worship somebody superior. Now it is up to you to select who is that superior. But the principle is there. Now so many political parties, they have selected one god. Somebody has selected Churchill. Somebody has selected Gandhi. Somebody has selected somebody, somebody. But they must have to select. Our proposition is: "If you are selecting somebody to worship, why not the perfect? Why you select the imperfect?" That is our Krishna consciousness. You have to do it. You have to select somebody as your leader. You cannot do without it. So the answer is that if you are selecting somebody to worship, Krishna says in the Bhagavad-gita: mattah parataram nanyat [Bg. 7.7]. "There is nobody superior than Me." Then why not go to the best person? Why should we go to the inferior?
KARANDHAR: For all the six opulences, they will choose someone.
PRABHUPADA: Eh? Eh?
KARANDHAR: For all the six opulences, they'll choose someone, someone very beautiful...
PRABHUPADA: Yes. But there is none complete. Except Krishna. Nobody's complete. Our pro, philosophy is that we have to select if we... That we must have to. Otherwise, there is no life. Just like you scientists, you quote so many leaders, scientific leaders. Without this, there is no life. So... Just like in the Bengali there is a proverb that if I to, if I have to steal and become a thief, why not plunder the government treasury? Why pickpocketing? If I have to be punished as criminal, as thief, let me plunder the government treasury and then let me go to jail. So this is our policy. So if we have to submit to somebody, why not the best and perfect? That is our philosophy. You cannot avoid submission. That is not possible. Who is there who does not submit to anyone? Find out anyone. If you, if a man has nobody to submit, he brings a dog and submits to him. The dog is passing stool. He's standing. He's submitted to the dog. The dog is passing urine, he's submitting: "Yes sir, you pass your urine. I take care of you." This is the nature. If you do not submit to God, then ultimately you have to submit to the dog. This is nature. You cannot avoid it. You have to submit. There is no other way. Because your position is like that. Without submitting to one, you cannot live. Jivera svarupa haya nitya-krishna-dasa [Chaitanya-charitamrita Madhya 20.108-109]. This is the philosophy given by Chaitanya Mahaprabhu.
SVARUP DAMODAR: Ultimately when death comes, we have to submit to...
PRABHUPADA: Yes, one has to submit to death.