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[Posted June 21, 2007]

Yesterday it was Global Warming, Now it's Global Cooling

A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami


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The mud at the bottom of B.C. fjords reveals that solar output drives climate change - and that we should prepare now for dangerous global cooling

Politicians and environmentalists these days convey the impression that climate-change research is an exceptionally dull field with little left to discover. We are assured by everyone from David Suzuki to Al Gore to Prime Minister Stephen Harper that "the science is settled." At the recent G8 summit, German Chancellor Angela Merkel even attempted to convince world leaders to play God by restricting carbon-dioxide emissions to a level that would magically limit the rise in world temperatures to 2C.
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No consensus on what the problem is, let alone solution for it
excerpt from conversation during morning walk, Honolulu, May 12, 1973
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Real Scientist Means... A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami

PRABHUPADA: Yes. They are misleading. They have no knowledge, and they are misleading. The basic principle of knowledge... They have no idea of spiritual basic principle. They take material basic principle. Therefore the beginning of their knowledge is wrong.

ROBERT GOUIRAN: Yes, yes, yes.
PRABHUPADA: So on the wrong platform you may go, go forward more and more, but it will be dismantled because it is wrong. more
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PRABHUPADA: Then you are.... As soon as you say "making research," then you are not perfect. Don't say that you are scientist. You are student. Don't say that you are scientist. And you are declaring, "There is no authority, nothing." Why do you speak all this nonsense? Because you are not scientist. You are making research. That's all right. When you complete your research—you come to the conclusion—then call yourself as scientist. Why, as a student, neophyte, you are claiming as "scientist"? Why misleading people? You do not know anything, how things are going on, and you are claiming you are scientist. Our point is, "Don't do this, misleading propaganda. You are not scientist. We protest against this false propaganda. Why you are making.... You do not know anything. You cannot solve any problem, major problem, so why you are claiming scientist? Stop this as a gentleman."

... You cannot act. We accept Krishna as scientist because He explains. You cannot explain. How we can accept you as scientist? You are rascal. Up till now, nobody was able to explain—simply vague. How we can accept these vague explanation as scientist? And daily changing, every year new theories. And I have to accept you scientist? Krishna said tatha dehantara-praptih [Bg. 2.13] five thousand years ago. It was known very well, and it is going on. That is science. You cannot give any solution, you are changing your ideas and theories every year, and we have to accept you as scientist? [break] ...speaking something, and I have to accept him as scientist? Madman, crazy fellow, saying something today, saying something other next day.

HARI-SAURI: In Mayapura you gave that Bengali proverb, "A madman, what he cannot say? A goat, what he cannot eat?"

PRABHUPADA: Yes. [chuckles] They are afraid. Stop disease, stop old age, stop birth, stop death. These are the major problems, and you call yourself scientist.

DEVOTEE (1): ...the most important thing. Why should we...

PRABHUPADA: Ah. That proves that you are a rascal number one....

DEVOTEE (1): They say that being able to work on all of our practical problems in the material world...

PRABHUPADA: And this is practical. You make something that nobody will die.

DEVOTEE (1): But a lot of them already admit that there's nothing we can do about death.

PRABHUPADA: Then don't call yourself scientist. The problems are there. You cannot solve them. [break] ...intelligent way of defeating so-called scientists. [break]


Failure to study the background of nature
purport, Srimad-Bhagavatam 5.18.33

Philosophers and scientists have been trying to study the entire cosmic situation and have been theorizing and calculating in different ways for millions and millions of years. However, the speculative research work of a so-called scientist or philosopher is always interrupted when he dies, and the laws of nature go on without regard for his work.

For billions of years changes take place in the material creation, until at last the whole universe is dissolved and remains in an unmanifested state. Constant change and destruction (bhutva bhutva praliyate [Bhagavad-gita 8.19]) is perpetually going on in nature, yet the material scientists want to study natural laws without knowing the Supreme Personality of Godhead, who is the background of nature. As Krishna states in Bhagavad-gita (9.10):

mayadhyakshena prakritih
suyate sa-characharam
hetunanena kaunteya
jagad viparivartate


"This material nature is working under My direction, O son of Kunti, and it is producing all moving and unmoving beings. By its rule this manifestation is created and annihilated again and again."

Now the material creation is manifest, eventually it will be annihilated and remain for many millions of years in a dormant state, and finally it will again be created. This is the law of nature.


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