Here is your transport. We are trying to send back to home, back to Godhead. This is real transport.

They don't know where to go in space

Why moon? We are trying to send back to home, back to Godhead.

JAYATIRTHA: As man progresses, the mark of his progression is his ability to use tools to a greater extent. Like there was the Stone Age. In the Stone Age, they used stones for tools. Then there was the Bronze Age, so they made weapons out of bronze, knives and so on. Then they invented the wheel.

PRABHUPADA: Modern age.

JAYATIRTHA: So as their science progressed, then they progressed and were able to utilize nature.

PRABHUPADA: So what is that progress? The caves are still there, somebody is living here. Then where is the progress? As the caves are still there and somebody is living here and skyscrapers, they are also, similarly, when you lived in the cave, there were palaces, but we could not see them. Both things are existing, but you studied only one side. Here is your history, see. Krishna has sixteen thousand palaces and there was no need of light. Jewels, all jewels. Everything is existing side by side.

SVARUP DAMODAR: So due to a lack of morals, they cannot see the real side.

PRABHUPADA: Yes. No, they are seeing only the caves. Just like they are going to the moon. They are going to the desert of the moon and they are concluding the moon is a desert. That's all. The other side is prohibited.

SVARUP DAMODAR: So they cannot go.

PRABHUPADA: They cannot go because according to Vedic description, moon is a planet for demigods. So they have got better brain. So they saw that "These rascals are coming here. All right, let them go to desert side." They have got their machine also. If they have got better brain, they can divert you. Why not think in that way? Their theory is that all other planets there is no life. Only this planet is favored by God, there is life. We say even in the sun planet there is life. Here is your transport. We are trying to send back to home, back to Godhead. This is real transport.

JAYATIRTHA: If you're going to travel, you should go to a worthwhile place. There's no reason to waste time.

PRABHUPADA: They go to the outer space, but they do not know where to go.

SVARUP DAMODAR: Yes, Prabhupada.

PRABHUPADA: These scientists, they are trying to travel in the outer space, but they do not know where to go.

SVARUP DAMODAR: Yes, that's a fact. They are just wandering in the wild.

PRABHUPADA: That's all. Beyond the sky there is another sky, Vaikuntha, and we are trying to go there according to the perfect knowledge. The scientists' basis of knowledge is misunderstanding, so how they can get perfect knowledge? If you begin from mistake, misconception, then where is your perfect knowledge? The beginning is this body. Beyond this body, they have no knowledge. Their rascal knowledge..., this rascal knowledge, how they can help you? Anything, suppose any mathematical calculation, if the beginning is wrong, then how you will come to the right conclusion? What do you think?

SVARUP DAMODAR: Yes, when the...

JAYATIRTHA: In logic, if the hypothesis is wrong then the conclusion is wrong.

PRABHUPADA: The hypothesis is always wrong.