[Posted
January 30, 2008]
World Net Daily Jan 29, 2008
- JEROME R. CORSI
GUEST: Bhagavad-gita teaches us that one should treat a piece of gold...
PRABHUPADA: Hm?
GUEST: ...a piece of gold and a piece of stone alike. Is it practically considered?
PRABHUPADA: Where it is stated?
GUEST: One should treat a piece of gold and a piece of stone...
PRABHUPADA: Where it is stated?
GUEST: In the Bhagavad-gita.
PRABHUPADA: Where? You recite the shloka [verse].
GUEST: Well I can't...
PRABHUPADA: That's all. This is not question. If you have no clear idea, where the question? Where it is stated? Do you..., are practically can do that—a piece of gold and piece of stone, the same thing? There is a verse, sama-loshtrashma-kan˜chanah. So that is very advanced stage, when one knows that everything is made of matter, so what is the value? Why you can't give more value to the stone, because originally everything is made of matter? There is one thing, panditah sama-darshinah [Bg. 5.18]. But that is when one has attained a very perfectional stage, not for the ordinary man. Ordinary man, you cannot say that "I treat a piece of stone and piece of gold the same way.'' Then why don't you take a piece of stone? Can you say? Suppose if you have gone purchasing to a goldsmith shop. So I say, "Sir, you take this ornament made of stone and you pay me the price of gold.'' Would you agree? Then there is no such... It must be practical. In the practical life that [vision that one thing is equal to another because both are matter] is very higher stage.
Those who do not care either for [anything of this material world]... Just like Sanatana Gosvami. Sanatana Gosvami was in Vrindavana. He was chanting "Hare Krishna, Hare Krishna," always. Then, one brahmana, he was very poor—perhaps you know this story—he worshiped Lord Shiva, and when Lord Shiva was pleased, then he wanted to take him, give him some benediction. So, Lord Shiva asked, "What do you want?''
So he [the brahmana] said, "Give me the best thing, so I shall be the greatest of all.''
That he [Lord Shiva] said, "Oh, I haven't got such thing, but if you want, you go to Sanatana Gosvami.''
"Where is Sanatana Gosvami?''
"Vrindavana.''
So he went there. Sanatana Gosvami had a touchstone. The touchstone was kept with the garbage. And he [Sanatana Gosvami] asked the brahmana, "All right, you take that. You are poor man. You take the stone, and if you touch this stone with iron, it will turn into gold. You take this. Find out in that garbage.''
So he took it and went away. So on the street he began to think that "Lord Shiva advised me that 'He has the best thing. You go there.' But he has given me this stone—it is very nice—but why did he keep it with the garbage? He has not delivered me the best thing.'' So he returned back. So when he returned back, then to Sanatana Gosvami he said, "Sir, I, I... this is very nice, but I don't think this is the best thing, because Lord Shiva said to me that you have the best thing. If it is the best thing, why did you keep it with the garbage?''
So Sanatana Gosvami smiled and said, "Yes, it is not the best thing, but for you it was the best thing. You want more than this, more valuable?''
"Yes, sir. For that purpose I came.''
"Then take this stone and throw in the Yamuna.''
So he threw it, and, Sanatana Gosvami said, "Sit down, chant Hare Krishna.''
You see? Those who are actually unattached, sarvopadhi-vinirmuktam tat-paratvena nirmalam [Chaitanya-charitamrita Madhya 19.170: "free from all kinds of material designations, or free from all desires except the desire to render service to the Supreme Personality of Godhead "], for them it is equally valuable. Not for ordinary men. So we cannot jump to the highest position. That is not possible. Therefore we have to go abhayam sattva-samshuddhih [become fearless and undergo purification of one's existence]. This process is recommended. Krishna says, and Krishna says also this. So actually, Krishna says ultimately, sarva-guhyatamam, "The most confidential knowledge I am giving you: sarva dharman parityajya mam ekam sharanam [Bg. 18.66: "Abandon all varieties of religion and just surrender unto Me. I shall deliver you from all sinful reactions. Do not fear. "]. This is the most confidential.'' So, so long we are not able to come to the platform of thinking the gold and the stone on the equal value, we have to follow these rules and regulations. But that is the highest consideration. Just like Sanatana Gosvami, he didn't care for this touchstone. But this is not for the ordinary man. The ordinary man cannot make that all of a sudden; therefore it is not for him.