You do not realize that, that you are twenty-four hours in ugly reality! Padam padam yad vipadam [Srimad-Bhagavatam 10.14.58]. Every step danger.

Terror Alert: Living in Fear ... of Chillis?

Danger in every step

PRABHUPADA: I think blackout is over.

REPORTER: Sir, this is the real present ugly reality here. We are being threatened.

PRABHUPADA: Huh?

REPORTER: This siren is a, shall I say, a very ugly reality before us.

PRABHUPADA: You are already in ugly reality always, twenty-four hours. [laughter] Suppose there is no blackout. Still, if you go in the street, is there guarantee that you will go home?

REPORTER: Yes.

PRABHUPADA: Is that guarantee?

REPORTER: No, no.

PRABHUPADA: Then you are always in ugly reality. Why do you say this blackout? This is one of the features of that ugly reality. That's all.

REPORTER: Yes. At the moment I see, but has it...

PRABHUPADA: Huh? [laughs] You are all, you do not realize that, that you are twenty-four hours in ugly reality! Padam padam yad vipadam [Srimad-Bhagavatam 10.14.58]. Every step danger. Why taking this?

REPORTER: I know, sir, but this is collective, national danger here. Have you anything to offer to us as a, as a...

PRABHUPADA: This Krishna consciousness. Our only remedy is this Krishna consciousness. You take to this and you will be happy. That's all.

REPORTER: We'll..., yes, sir. I think somebody should go to those who are threatening us. Some, I wish...

PRABHUPADA: What benefit you will derive by going to them?

REPORTER: But, well, he'll go to the... Supposing somebody is out to kill me. That's changing, if you can't tell him...

PRABHUPADA: But suppose he does not kill you. Will you be safe?

REPORTER: No, sir. That I can see, but...

PRABHUPADA: Then what is the use of going to him? You will die today or tomorrow. That's all. If you want to save yourself, then go to Krishna. That is our proposal. As soon as you go the enemy, he does not fight, do you mean to say you will live forever?

REPORTER: No, no, sir. I've got...

PRABHUPADA: Then what is the use of telling "go negotiate peace"? Trust Radha-Krishna so that you may perpetually be saved. Why don't you take that?

REPORTER: I was only thinking in terms of collective security, not... I can see your point now.

PRABHUPADA: You should know that you are always in danger.

REPORTER: Yes, sir. We agree.

PRABHUPADA: Oh.

REPORTER: The great Einstein said the same thing when he was actually... He said there was no question...

PRABHUPADA: That is our position.

REPORTER: I could many times fall from here...

PRABHUPADA: And Krishna says, "I will save you.'' Therefore let us go to Krishna. Why to others?

REPORTER: Changing, because he is disturbing, that's all.

PRABHUPADA: Disturbing... Your mind is also disturbing always.

REPORTER: Yes, yes. You are...

PRABHUPADA: That is always with you. Your body disease always with you. Are you not suffering from bodily pains–"Oh, I'll (indistinct)"? Why don't you go to (indistinct) to cure your (indistinct)? [laughter]. So why you do? You are already in danger. If you... Why don't you realize that point?

REPORTER: That I... Yes.

PRABHUPADA: Therefore...

REPORTER: But we are talking of national problems.

PRABHUPADA: These are symptoms. Just like one man is diseased and he is saying, "Oh, this and that is painful.'' Real thing is his disease. These are symptoms. So people are trying to cure patchwork. We are giving the supreme cure. That is the difference. No patchwork, no patchwork disease cure will help you. Complete cure.

janma karma cha me divyam
evam yo janati tattvatah
tyaktva deham punar janma
naiti mam eti [Bhagavad-gita 4.9]

REPORTER: Mam eti.

PRABHUPADA: That's it. That we want. No more repetition of birth and death. Mam eti. That is Krishna consciousness, benefit of Krishna consciousness. Yad gatva na nivartante tad dhama paramam mama [Bg. 15.6]. If you go to Krishna, then you don't come back again.

REPORTER: Sir, I..., mine was a very hypothetical question. Supposing hundred pure saintly Krishna conscious people are meditating or discussing or just serving together, and there comes somebody, someone drops a bomb, and at the end of all...

PRABHUPADA: So those who are Krishna conscious, he has not afraid of bomb. They are not afraid of bomb.

REPORTER: How to (indistinct) such people? We are such, sir, we are...

PRABHUPADA: Now they receive bomb, then it is Krishna's desire that bomb has come. A Krishna conscious person is never afraid of anything. Bhayam dvitiyabhiniveshatah syad. One who has conception of anything other than Krishna, he is afraid. One who knows everything is Krishna, why he should be afraid? If bomb is coming, he will see, "Oh, Krishna is coming.'' Yes. That is the vision of the devotee. So he thinks, "Oh, Krishna wants to kill me as bomb. Oh, that's all right. I will be killed.'' That is Krishna consciousness.